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John Mackey Has Proven That Conscious Capitalism Works | The Show

John Mackey Has Proven That Conscious Capitalism Works | The Show

What does it take to be a successful entrepreneur and what is the future of capitalism? In fact, what even is capitalism?

In this full episode of Dad Saves America, John sits down with his friend John Mackey (who also happens to be the CEO and co-founder of Whole Foods Market) to talk about entrepreneurship, dealing with bullies, and finding purpose in your career. Mackey is a passionate proponent of “conscious capitalism,” a term he coined in reference to his unique approach to business that guides decision-making at Whole Foods.

Throughout this interview, John and John break down misconceptions about capitalism and Mackey reflects on his 41-year journey with Whole Foods.

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Concious Capitalism:

Concious Leadership:



[00:00] Intro

[02:05] Why Whole Foods Market exists

[8:49] John Mackey’s worldview as a young man

[15:38] The watery origins of conscious capitalism

[30:16] Capitalism is the most moral system

[49:55] Corporate censorship isn’t new

[57:42] Was Whole Foods Market ever a monopoly?

[1:05:27] Climate predictions don’t add up

[1:11:51] How to think about inequality

[1:17:34] Compassion and resilience

[1:24:52] The promise of America

[1:31:39] Outro


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Dad Saves America is a channel dedicated to celebrating heroic fatherhood while teaching the next generation of fathers strategies they can utilize in parenting their children. We believe strong children come from a strong family. We’ve had many experts in the studio, including Jonathan Haidt, Mike Yates, Lenore Skenazy, Warren Farrell, Matt Ridley, Martin Gurri, and Michael Strong.

Dad Saves America
Dad Saves America
Dad Saves America is all about celebrating dads and fatherhood. Fatherhood is the greatest opportunity to make a positive impact you will have in your lifetime. We’re figuring out how to raise a generation of resilient, independent-minded kids who are ready to embrace freedom in their future. Top experts and engaging personalities, including Adam Carolla, Dr. Drew Pinsky, Adam Curry, Daymond John, and Jay Glazer, trade stories of childhood, parenthood, and all the issues impacting how we raise our kids with host John Papola.