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German Contreras's avatar

Datacenters are the new fracking.

Blair Tanner's avatar

Except fracking produces many more jobs.

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Google- data center construction workers 800-1,500 temporary workers. Operational phase 50-100 people per building. It doesn’t sound like the economic engine some people are making them out to be.

Blair Tanner's avatar

The only data center proposal that I know about closely is a proposal to convert a 15 year vacant 870,000 sq foot ex carpet facility on over 1000 acres of land in rural Georgia. So do you wait until large scale manufacturing comes back in rural areas, or do you convert these properties into data centers?

Steve B's avatar

Long comment, but I hope you find interesting. Sorry if any links are broken.

The United States has spent 50 years outsourcing industry to other countries.  

The US has came from “The” Super Power of WW II who lead the World in everything to a consumer, service based Nation that is dependent on other countries for almost everything even our medicine.

https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/where-do-all-of-our-prescription-drugs-come-from/

The key industries are:  

* Energy

* Transportation

* Technology/Telecommunications

* Manufacturing

* Medical

Finally we have started to stand up and be “The” World leader again starting with oil.

What if Nazi Germany got the Atomic Bomb first?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Da6LZ9rDw5v/?igsh=MXhlNXpvZWd1czIzMQ==

What if China controls the Data of the 21st Century?

Did you know the US only make 4% of the World’s steel.  China makes 53%. 

https://worldsteel.org/data/world-steel-in-figures/world-steel-in-figures-2025/

The US has less the 1% of the of World’s commercial shipping by tonnage.  Only about 9% of the total number of commercial ships.  Those US-Flagged ships are mostly used to haul cargo and fuel to our US ports outside of the Continental United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_merchant_navy_capacity_by_country

Remember Desert Shield/Storm (DS/DS) 1990-91? Our Military is about 30% to 40% smaller today.

All most every country in the World leased commercial ships the US Military for DS/DS. There was no enemy air or sea threat. Maritime insurance was not a problem. We sent 500K US Military personnel with their equipment and with 60 days of supply.

Did you know? Iran is about 92 times bigger than Kuwait. Iran is approximately 1,648,195 sq km, while Kuwait is approximately 17,818 sq km.

Iran is half the size of the Continental US.

Wonder why we have a very small contingent of ground forces in the Persian Gulf? American people can no longer handle war loses and logistically hard to get the commercial shipping to move the huge force of ground forces with their stuff.

I know some of you would rather we were not in the Persian Gulf. Ok, let Iran have nuclear weapons and watch the World change.

At the end of WW II we had 12.2 million US military in uniform with a population of 140 million.

Today we have about 1.3 million Active Duty military and 1.1 million Reserve & Guard for 2.5 million in uniform with a population 342 million.

Year Army Navy Marines Coast Guard Total

1939 189,839 125,202 19,432 334,473

1940 269,023 160,997 28,345 458,365

1941 1,462,315 284,427 54,359 1,801,101

1942 3,075,608 640,570 142,613 56,716* 3,915,507

1943 6,994,472 1,741,750 308,523 151,167 9,195,912

1944 7,994,750 2,981,365 475,604 171,749 11,623,468

1945 8,267,958 3,380,817 474,680 85,783 12,209,238

As of December 2025, reported active-duty troops included:

* 447,455 in the Army

* 339,602 in the Navy

* 315,317 in the Air Force

* 170,849 in the Marine Corps

* 10,205 in the Space Force

* 41,825 in the Coast Guard

Another 1.1 million serve today in the National Guard and Reserve.

Look at a US Pipeline map.  

https://pipeline101.org/location/

Look at how oil is refined.  

https://youtu.be/r2-eOdAOal4?si=3OgmQRXJkRhR62yv

The World shuts down without oil. 

Only electricity comes from unreliable and expensive solar and wind energy.

If solar and wind power was competitive with oil, it would not need massive government subsidies.

Wonder why you don’t hear much about green energy even though the “Left” controls the Main Stream Media?

In addition to electricity, transportation, heating, etc., did you know plastics, fertilizer, medicines, paints, etc. all comes from oil refining.

Even the asphalt roads come from oil refineries.

https://scienceinsights.org/what-is-made-from-oil-everyday-products-explained/

The below website is full of interesting information about energy. 

https://www.americaoutloud.news/author/ronald-stein-p-e/

Read about the 6,000 products made from oil. 

https://www.americaoutloud.news/remove-the-crude-oil-and-you-do-not-merely-dim-the-lights-you-dismantle-society/

Did you know California is not connected to the Texas and Midwest pipelines because of the Rocky Mountains and California’s restrictions on emissions is causing California refineries to close and move operations to other States.  California is an “Energy Island” that is setting on its own oil but buys refined fuel products from China and other countries.  California is critical for seaports, military bases, etc. Absolute idiots running California.  

https://www.americaoutloud.news/california-ports-expose-the-state-as-a-national-security-risk-to-america/

Now we have ill informed Americans that fall right into the Communist plan by complaining about Data Centers and slowing the building process.

What if China controls the Data of the 21st Century?

America needs to lead the way in Energy, Transportation, Technology, Manufacturing, and Medical or fall in to the Communist trap.  

* Drill & Refine Oil

* Manufacture Steel

* Build Ships

* Manufacture Chips

* Improve Technology/Telecommunications

* Build Data Centers

* Manufacture Everything

* Build & Improve Infrastructure

* Protect our Nation’s Electric Grid from a Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP)

* Build Microgrids (Nuclear Power especially SNR Small Modular Reactors (SMR’s) and Molten Salt Nuclear Battery (MsNB’s)). No one in the US has ever died from a nuclear power accident. Research it.

https://www.americaoutloud.news/africa-just-showed-the-world-how-fast-nuclear-can-move/

* Educate our young in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM).

* Be the Leader in Space. The answers are in outer space.

Most of all the US must be a Capitalist Nation.

Margaret Thatcher was a vocal critic of socialism, famously stating, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." This quote encapsulates her belief that socialist policies ultimately lead to economic failure due to unsustainable financial practices.

Be a critical thinker.

I recommend you do your own research.

SteveB

25 years a US Marine Logistics Officer

32 years in Construction signing the front of paychecks.

Michael Hermens's avatar

And here I thought this was about Mr Seuss meeting Mr Mengele.

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Data center tax breaks-would the people have to make up the difference?

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Google- data centers in Virginia are located in eastern and northeastern Virginia. So far, no data centers in the Appalachian Mountains part of Virginia.

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Including management the average Amazon employee earns $74,000-77,000. Without management the average Amazon worker earns $47,990.

Peggy's avatar

Why are you build one in your backyard.

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Google data centers in Texas.

Peggy's avatar

You really can’t be that stupid, oh that’s right you’re a republican. You are that stupid.

BoHica's avatar

You should consider getting more fiber in your diet. Perhaps switching to decaf would help you control your hateful rage as well. You could even try touching some grass if you are so inclined.

Lizabeth Gussman's avatar

Read my comments. And, no they’re not hateful. And, I drink decaf tea. Btw, is a data center in your part of the country?